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It is ethical to experiment with animals.
It is ethical to experiment with animals, because selfish and self-centered as we are, we always see things from our view. So, experimenting on human without their permission is unethical, but experimenting on an animal without their agreement is.Firstly, we can't experiment on humans. We have to make sure that the experiments are safe on the animals before we experiment on humans, because we don't want to kill anyone. The experiment will be much strongly criticized when it's done to a human despite the fact that it can be dangerous.
Secondly, the experiments not only benefit human, but also benefit animals. Cures or vaccines have been found for the animals, because we were able to experiment on them. If we haven't conducted the experiment, more animals would have died.
Some people say that the experiments are unethical, because they aren't asken of their opinions, but that is a paradox. If they could speak in the language we could understand, we would have asked their opinions and there would hardly be any experiments on them. It sounds absurd, but that is the truth. If animals could speak, they would have only agree with the ones that would be pleasant to them. Also, people would have considered the animals as human, because they could plead and beg, and wouldn't even consider the experiment in the first place.
However, they don't, so we kill them without mercy. We usually kill them for our needs, mostly for meat or leather, but sometimes for our own pleasure. Of course, we can live without these luxuries and live as a vegetarian, but people would would never give up these things. These things are inseperable for us now. So, why do we care so much for a small number of animals who are being experimented for the benefit of all living things, when we are killing so many animals for our luxuries?
Besides, even if we let them go free, they would die anyway. There's no place for them to live. There are some natural areas they can live, but it won't be long before human invade these places. We should also consider the number of animals that die of pollution. Pollution can ruin the whole food cycle, killing the whole population living in that habitat. Why do we care so much for a small number of animals who are being experimented for the benefit of all living things, when we are killing so many animals by our indifference?
Animal lovers say that it is unethical to experiment an animal. This is because the first thing they think of when someone says 'animal' is 'pet'. They think of their cute dogs and cats. This is also self-centered, because most of the experiments are done with rats. Of course, there is another ethical issue that rats and flies have the same quality of life as pets. However, most people don't consider that issue. As long as the experiments are not done on their cute pets, they don't care. I guess the view of what animals are allowed and not allowed is another issue. Some people say of the size and some people say of the relationship between the animal and human being. I think the later is more likely, because you wouldn't think that experimenting on an ant, fly, or mosquito is unethical.
Therefore, I think it is ethical to experiment on an animal. If it is ethical to eat meat, wear leather jacket, go hunting, and pollute the earth that places become inhabitable, it is ethical to experiment on an animal.
Psychology or psychological research can be dangerous.
Psychology or psychological research can be dangerous. Psychology is powerful. It deals with how people's minds and thoughts. If used badly, it can be a big probelm. Psychology might be used to control other people's minds and it will be worse if they don't realize that fact. Many things can be done with people's uncosciousness and if it is used for bad purpose, the result would be very bad. You can destroy a person, only with their mind and thoughts.Also, when we do a research, we should consider the consequeces. Especially when we are doing a long-period research on children, we should be aware that we might change their mind eternally, even if you didn't want to. For example, if you grow up a black child to hate white people, the child will hate white people for the rest of his/her life, unless she gets that unconscious changed, which is hard to do. The child might live a happy life, but the consequence of the experiment is likely to be painful and hard for the child.
Science has been used for both good and bad. It is the same with psychology. Psychology can be used for both good and bad, but we're the ones who is using the knowledge, so we must be wise in using it.
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| Matthew.K | comment2 | 0 | Sep 16 2007, 1:59 PM EDT by Matthew.K | |
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are there any statistics that prove your point, or is it just your thought? (sorry im being kinda critical but its cuz we have different thoughts) yes of course, pollution may ruin the whole food cycle, but this is kinda vague. also, why care so much for a small number of animals being experiemented? well i dont think that the sacrifice of the minority is ethical in order to benefit the majority. what if you were in a situation in which a boat is slowly sinking, cuz there are too many people on the boat. would you (a selfish and self-centered person according to you) jump into the water to save the others' lives? Moreover, i have never raised any pets in my entire life, so i dont know how it is to have a pet. But i still think that it is unethical to experiment with animals.
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| Matthew.K | comment | 0 | Sep 16 2007, 1:52 PM EDT by Matthew.K | |
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you have really strong points. its really cool. but i dont really agree with your opinion. your points seem too extreme to me... you're looking at this issue at a biased aspect. first of all, if we cant experiment on humans, why should we regard it as a natural thing to experiement on animals, who also have a life just like us? just because they cant speak? well speaking doesnt mean everything; there are many other ways to express FEELINGS. let me use pong's short example: if you kick a dog, it would probably bite you as a reaction to pain, showing that it has feelings. secondly, how can you be sure that the experiments would definitely benefit humans and animals? what about the animals that get ill or die due to failure of the experiments? experiments cant be always successful. well then think of you being a rat used in an experiment to prove the effect of a new medicine. would you like to sacrifice yourself to bring benefits to others of your species? you said that people are selfish and self-centered, so you wouldnt want to sacrifice yourself, would you? you wouldnt be able to plead or beg when you are one of the animals used in the experiment. Also, i want to know the specific percentage or number of animals that die from pollution. (continued)
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| diane_1008 | hmmm.... | 0 | Sep 16 2007, 6:55 AM EDT by diane_1008 | |
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hmmm....i understand your point of view, just like katie, i understand why you're claiming that animals experiments are ethical and you're reasons seems totally reasonable. However i do not agree with the part where u say that "experimenting on human without their permission is unethical, but experimenting on an animal without their agreement is."I think the factor which determines the factor of whether animal experiments are ethical doesnt depend on "permission", if animals had a choice they wouldnt want to be a testing subject. I understand how you say that testing on humans would contain more risks, but i dont think that we could just think that its ethical to test on animals simply because they cannot speak their thoughts. Even though animals cannot communicate with us, they still have LIFES!! they have feelings and could feel pain or fear just as human can. I think we should put more respect on the animals though they might seem to be in a lower level then us, i dont think we just simply respect someone just because they can "talk"? Animal experimnet might be ethical but the determining factor shouldnt just be the fact that animals cannot express their feelings and therefore we shouldnt care how they feel.
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| KatieY | ... | 0 | Sep 15 2007, 11:27 PM EDT by KatieY | |
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sorry but I strongly disagree you're point of view of whether using animals in experiment is ethical or not. I understand that you say using animals in experiments are ethical, but i disagree with your reasons. I dont think that the factor that determines whether is ethical or not depends on "permissions" using this as a starting point is clearly unfair to the animals, because they cant talk in the first place. I also disagree with you on the part you say they cant live when we let them go. The nature have its own ways of living, that is something call the ECOSYSTEM, there are places that's ruined but there are places that are not ruined, and "let them go" doesnt make sense, because if you dont use them in the first place, you wouldnt let it go. Humans are self-centered and i admitt that, but they are not so self-centered that sounds like we have a aberrant mind, and inhuman at all.
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